Hugh, Crap, another curse? Those so easy to forgive-and basically take him back tomorrow if they could many are already in ministry there and climbing the $ ladder there and now that he is gone they are able to cut a bigger slice of the pie for themselves. Finally starting to pray. I get no pleasure in pointing this out. The children at the school were told that DC and the family is in California. It appears I missed the Mensa meeting on this thread ;o). I think its safe to say Macarthur earns over a million per year off jesus. Check out the evidence here: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-Macarthur-salary-GCC-corporation-Larry-King.html, And if thats not enough proof that hes getting rich off Jesus, then understand that John Macarthurs Grace To You with Macarthur as President and his two sons as Director and Treasurer, give $700,000 annually to a private firm owned 100% by John Macarthurs son-in-law. All. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. He really should have thought this one out. Calvary Chapel will always be my church, I never went there thinking that my pastors were saints, I went their to learn how to become a better person, how to live a faithful life with God, how to try and become more like Jesus TRY because no one in this planet has walked without sin except JESUS. I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. So this is a serious question. Diane was the first pulled out of the car. Sauder read a letter Bob Haskins wrote, talked briefly about Bob not being there, then turned it to Satan being at work, and how this is a time to look at ourselves. It would be interesting to see how Bob spoke about this topic in his messages. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Just one. Coy is twisting in the wind. Refuse to let that man and his family go. Thanks mld. Barbara wrote: The following exposes present facts about John Macarthur that he needed to know and we tried to explain, but to no avail. Let the body of Christ refuse to sever a member. It amazed me that this pastor was able to convince his church that he had done no wrong and that because of his amazing ministry the devil was trying to tear it down. Michael Newham, have you ever committed adultery? You wait your turn. My hypocrisy? I learned to trust God to receive the meat of His word and to spit out the bones of mans opinion. How sad. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. calvaryftl.org is wasting no time wiping out the name of Bob Coy from their webpage. Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. Bob chose to do that. Im not one to split hairs but The first meeting place for CC was in a funeral home behind Albertsons in FT Lauderdale, now it is true they moved for a bunch of years to Pompano but only with temporary zoning variances off Gateway but were deigned permission to a become permanent church location, therefore they never settled there. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. Great article to consider: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79853971/, The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. He had everyone mesmerized. We all sin. All this stuff about Love Out Loud was a big con.. How many people did Coy or Calvary go after that left the church.Coy never did he didn;t care. 22:20), The Lord Jesus Christ commands all believers to proclaim the gospel throughout the world and to make disciples of all nations. He was already richI, Ive seen people get black balled by him..now the shoe is on the other foot , Id like to know how long this s.. went on and the people who knew said nothing out of fear of losing their job. for those of us in the cheap seats, it might be wise to be prayerfully patient & turn the hobby horses out to pasture for a bit. Good point. Nowadays we are mostly committed to serious dialogue and ongoing relationships. They would rather see a family trashed than do what is right by the Lord. I have been tempted to be unfaithful, yeah, and its not funny. He made it public and we are no one to judge. We gotta start getting this right. Wow I did not know there were so many perfect people in the world. In every church there were false teachings, traditions of men, worldly compromise, hypocrisy in the leadership and pastors who justified everything. Were closed for the night. I did ask Bob about the female dress attire in the early 2000s I was told, we dont want to turn off a new believer by offending them. God is able to do that. I think the blogger has the best synopsis of what the biblical model is to do in this case. With Jesus we called to personify everything,meaning we are to relate everything to the glory of God and to value the interests of others. David was a man after Gods own heart. Share the power. The more I learn about the business of Christianity, the book deals, compensation, speaking fees, book reviews, book forwards, blogs about books (no offense Michael), radio and television shows, etc., the more I can empathize with people who have given up organized Christianity for house churches or other alternative church structures. God sees everything. Bob, The Bob Coy topic has gone to seed as has this thread so it is a good parking place for just some general conversation it doesnt intrude on the newer threads. Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. Lets come together as a body and shame the devil. You hate the answer. Your. To know love is the greatest..certainly the church body has some seeking to do. That is indeed, spiritually scary. The woman told him "she had an experience with God and has found forgiveness" for Coy over his abuse. The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. I already said he can be restored as a brother, and I have said that God can show him grace and forgiveness and provide restoration. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-meagchurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter. If your understanding of the Bible has completely isolated you from the greater Body of Christ, it is safe to say you are misunderstanding it. Antonio- Please find for me the scripture references for Moral Failure. I doubt hardly anyone will leave CCFL, unless they leave to follow Coy. As none of George's other relatives are available to help, Mandy Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 15: In Young Sheldon, Georgie and Mandy were never seriously dating. I felt the call to stand up for righteousness and expose this pastor after I learned of the many women who suffered the same thing before me and had many people come against me for that, too, which really hurt. Charles Ward SmithJune 25, 1927 Ventura, California, U.S. October 3, 2013 (aged 86) Newport Beach, California, U.S. Your pastorking has gotten caught. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. fscaduto, WELL PUT and that was precisely my point early on. As Michael said, I care more about the victims than the victimize at this point. The other four kids were dead on the spot. It also took us all years to get over it mentally and spiritually. Coy has to accept the consequences for his sin, as do we all, and certainly has put himself in this position and opened himself up to the public discussion about what should be his and his familys personal business.but thats not the point! I understand the severity of this. MLD, satan is bound? Is it like a day or is a day like a 1,000 yrs? Coddington was known for clean, elegant designs combining old school with what would come to be known as the "Boyd Look". I pray that Bob Coy hasnt left decades of bodies in his wake, and I will be praying for them (nameless as they may be to me) and for his church and family to recover. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. In fact, the church had been battling accusations nationwide for years that it empowered predatory pastors while demanding little accountability. The victim wife of another scandal set up camp at a near by church SO if anyone can recommend a smaller church, please let me know. awesome. Good for you. Tracked down at the bar on a recent weeknight, the well-dressed ex-pastor looks no different from the days when he preached to thousands of followers. When we fall, we have to model the humility and fidelity to the Scriptures that we demand they recognize.then model the love, grace, and restoration to the body that proves our complete fidelity. BTW My Grandmother the mother of 12 and Grandmother of 33+ and a bunch of great grand kids was the most Christian woman I ever knew and she was a devout Catholic so was Mother Teresa for that matter. You are an angry man, Lorenzo, and very unattractive to anyone who you are unloading upon. When my Bible says that blindness has happened to Israel in part until the fullness of the Gentiles come in then anything else is garbage. It was scheduled and was cancelled. I dont think it was ever told. You, on the other hand, seem to have difficulty. Miami's independent source of Thanks. In January 2016, he and Diane filed for divorce in Broward County. I know of a young 20 something recent Bible college grad (female) who wrote sermons for him. And your calling me an idiot seems to indicate that Calvinism is idiocy with which I agree completely! Now would be a good time to write us a full article on this issue. Michael Newnham, a pastor from Oregon whose blog "Phoenix Preacher" details the scandals swirling around Calvary Chapel, pointed to sources claiming that Coy is trying to mobilize investors, because he wants "back in the game.". Before leaving each church, we shared our research with the pastors who made excuses, denied the facts and questioned our right to find fault with their church doctrine and leadership. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Statistics. When, oh when will the sin sniffing and salivating over someones moral failurecome to an end? http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. Why hasnt it been called adultery?? He can survive this and serve the Lord. Anonymous dont buy the lie men do not cheat because an ad pops up on their FB page. dont condemn someone on rumors. Anyone can read it and see what was said. There should be no quick fix restorations. You only want those who will tell you how smart and how right you are? Genuine Christianity doesnt waste its time sin sniffing or telling others what to do or how to live. And my Bible says for God so loved THE WHOLE WORLD Sorry no tulip there! MLD, I see. When we personify we learn to practice loving God and others as we live in His presence as we live together with others. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. Nobody should jugde him he is human NOT god. ( When I signed in, it asked for my first and last name seemed simple enough.!) This is called evangelical repentance, and is accompanied and followed by amendment of life. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. Within a few days you will too. People have gifts, given by God apt to speak is one of them. It was masterful manipulation off the main issue. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. The following day, the victim told the police that she was not ready to proceed with a criminal investigation unless a second person came forward. (All about keeping that large congregation I guess). [3] [4] [5] His media ministry, which includes radio, television, and digital media was subsequently terminated. Ill be blunt. I think this is your passage HUGH. This my sister is a 4 part series for who ever your present Pastor is and I think this is the perfect time for all Pastors to pray about this teaching. As a doctrine, it leads people to follow the antichrist who comes to unite the worlds belief systems. This whole mess has really brought some things into question for me, a new believer Adultery is certainly throughout the 66 books BUT not within those called into ministry as far as I can find. But I would bet that you wont find a man on here who had not looked at porn in one form or another and for sexual gratification thus all are guilty of fornication and adultery, for whosoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery in his heart -Jesus-. Just one final thing, after youve read those 4 books, just stop, dont go any further. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. ``I said, `Daddy, no, no, no, no.. Tell me one Christian that doesnt consider Jesus Lord and I will tell you they are not a Christian. Nero was certainly anti-Christ though I personally would not ascribe the definite article. If you love Me, keep My commandments. The words of our witness take to the air on the wings of our works. Check felony records of the school substitute teacher. Coy also claimed that he passed a polygraph test to prove his innocence. how are you furthering ring the kingdom with this blog? Yes I do. Imagine what all those kids at Liberty are thinking now. Huge crowds hung on his every word. I have a feeling cause I saw someone else with the exact car.. Quite an eclectic mix of emails coming in. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. I cant believe some of the comments Ive read here and on CCAbuse. This whole thing is hard on you, but it doesnt justify what youre doing. He said Satan was looking to destroy people .he sure did not take his advice.. Coy black balled a number of people who served and now he is going to know what being black balled is all about..karma comes back on him.. @ Hugh Flynn. In a congregation this size of course there are others who have been / are guilty of the same transgressions and there will be others in the future. I actually do not answer yes to all your questions. How do you KNOW that Israel on the Mediterranean is the Israel of God? Shooting the messenger is rather common in the initial hours of disbelief. One too many run-on sentences of ignorance for me today. Our loyalty is to Jesus Christ. 30 Being therefore a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, 31 he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption. Its a gift you have that really helps me have a better understanding of things. On another note, are we also praying for those women with whom he had affairs? 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. None. [5] It is acclaimed as one of the great expressions of automotive customization. Also there were pledge meetings. "I can't discuss it on the record," the former pastor, who managed a casino with exotic dancers in Las Vegas before committing his life to Christ, said when approached in October. He does need some time out [sorry, lol, seems funny, no pun intended] as he sets himself aside in repentance and prayer as to the Lord, but, sometimes we judge too harshly as if we know all things when it is God who knows all things. So if one is in agreement with the end time position of CCFL, they would not want to sit under Tullians teachings. I was able to get some details on the matter and published yesterday afternoon. I trip on all you. BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST, OR YOULL NEVER EXPERIENCE TRUE HEALING! God will show love and mercy to whoever he wantsand it might just be all humans at some point. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Krent W. I apologize for my flippant remark to your initial comment at 338. I am crystal clear on everything you have told me and havent told me anything I didnt already know. . Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. Use grace. Michael, you agree with 0% of the things that come out of my mouth, so calling me ludicrous is only adding to the list of pejoratives Ive accumulated from you . I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. As I said above, look how many men think that the light casual joking around is not harmful when they are actually sending out and allowing themselves to receive horny vibes. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale spokesman Mike Miller said Monday the church was not commenting beyond its statement. When you have availability and opportunity its just a matter of time. Also, by that time there were a few millionaires who attended. And I also said that I would not give him the keys to another church. I pray that he must show true repentance and fruit before he is ever allowed to preach from any pulpit, and I pray that process is not rushed along as we often have seen happen in the past with other fallen pastors. I disagree with Smith on losing salvation (I dont believe you can lose salvation), on counting a generation from the re-establishment of Israel, on the resurrection body. there has been NO confirmation of what the moral failure is. Every man gets tired of the same ole same ole and wants a little variety, some men just hide it better than others, or they find the outlet through porn or in their imagination, every man has a file cabinet with all kinds of images and scenes and past experiences that he pulls out when the need arises, so all those men criticizing another in this area are hypocrites. Does that corroborate with what youve heard? Hooked on porn for years. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. This got the ball rolling and ultimately he resigned because the board wouldve gone public if he didnt. It never is. And I am not a Calvinist. Devastated, I left my home church because of Bob Coys candid sermons that are always delivered with been there done that backround..I,m on my knees for him and his family knowing that what Michael before me said is all true..very sad. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. Only such as are born of the Holy Spirit and receive Jesus Christ become children of God and heirs of eternal life. So crazy that I became addicted to cocaine.". Thanks for the attribution Michael, thats how it went down. Coy resigned fromCalvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, which he founded in 1985 and grew to become one of the largest churches in the nation, in April 2014. It sounds so super spiritual for Bob to say, but I dont recall Paul saying that, or Peter, or John saying that, anywhere in Scripture. Not one is perfect and we all fall short. Trolling for a controversial reaction Flynn? Im concerned with those whose lives have been shattered by Bob Coys choices. Again I presume your a single woman. I loved the book and I want yall to pop over, read the review and see reasons why I think you would like it too. This thread is too important and affects too many people to allow the personal conflicts on it. Read some of the reports from that nightits all over the place in reputable sources. "We need to stop him. This is the church were talking about. I think that was supposed to ease the transition for the new Pastor. "Typically, how it goes in these cases is you have a violator in the church, but the leaders will have this notion that if he repents, he's forgiven, and then we don't have to talk about it any more," says Leander James, who specializes in church child abuse cases. Willingness to do whatever the board and congregation require is step four. Something really big is going to come out soon. With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. Thankfully, this isnt my first rodeo. And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? I would hope all even those closely associated and even directly hurt would dig deeply to not bring more disappointment to Christ by acting in a Unchristian like manner. He sat on a U.S. presidential advisory board and received weekly updates straight from GOP mastermind Karl Rove. Who assigned you the daunting task of picking up the pieces? It can be if you want it that way here, after all, it is your blog. Net Worth of Coy Gibbs-After the death of Coy, the citizens are sincerely interested to know about his net worth and constantly search on the internet. Where is bob? {P} , , , - , , , . Well, Coy will have a chance b/c it sounds like its women and not men. Thank God that through Jesus we can find forgiveness no matter how much it hurts. What if Sharon doesnt come in the postoperative period? You have brothers and sisters in the world that are not able to mention their faith without fear of loosing their freedom or life. I hadnt heard of any in my 30 years attending CC starting with CCCM in 1976 when I came to Christ. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. In May, Matt Tague, an assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was arrested on 16 counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. My prayers are with Pastor Bob, Diane, and the kids. John Macarthur has been teaching that one can take the Mark of the Beast and still be redeemed for more than 30 years. They also had a singer who wore tight jeans that may not have been by todays standards showy, but her mannerisms drew attention and I would look at the men in the audience and see all their eyes were on her- and I am sure she knew it. Lets see how many marriages this man has destroyed in his church. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. The founder's son-in-law, Brian Brodersen, left the network of Calvary churches and started his own organization with many of the chapels, including Coy's old church in Fort Lauderdale. I sincerely hope you will stop wasting your time on this blog, seeing each of for who we really are, a bunch of very failure ridden representatives of Jesus, just faking our way through every day and butchering this faith called Christianity. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. Who made you Coys torpedo? Disgusting! this certainly is an example of adultery. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. It is the second-largest megachurch in Florida, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. Andy, I saw no verses posted by you AND you have not shown where Jesus spoke of this 1,000 yr earthy reign. He has been the father and leader of a house. Why is that, exactly? I am not talking about positional but relational restoration. It doesnt say or infer anything you are saying. No, we give first aid and rehab, knowing full well that all of us have faced the same arrows. Sheesh, somebody tell that Alex guy to re-open comments. Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. DIANE COY Diane was born and raised in Southern California where, as a high school senior, she gave her heart and life to Jesus as her Lord and Savior. If one sticks around for awhile, those friendships and identities will develop. Just saying maybe. I guess the comment should have read In lieu of that verse, should a dog return to its vomit?. And if you read June one of the comments I believe she really got it right. Yes, God judged him, but was restored, and he was still king, leading the people. I have consciously stopped being friends with certain guys because there was too much of a bond being created that could have gone on to be something more. You said you werent CC, and didnt know B Coy, but now your motive is clear, so youve been lying all along. Gods speed in healing for all. If the doctrine was a 9 and you are Spirit filled then find a like minded church that teaches sound doctrine and stay away from reformed theology and Calvinism which contradicts the word of God, your going there will be like putting new wine into old wine skins! A jury awarded the family $360,000 but ruled Calvary wasn't culpable. MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. It is a struggle not to disrespect and dishonor her? Listen to his own words here: http://www.thewatchmanwakes.com/John-MacarthurMark-of-the-Beast.html. The fruit of the message or from the teaching is different than the personal fruit if a person does not heed that message, so the fruit I am talking about, are the hearers, those that heard the message and were saved by the message, and were edified and encouraged by the message, Im talking about those who grew by the doctrine they were taught and not only did they hear the word but also put that word into practice, and if they did then yes, we will see the fruit of that doctrine as they grow to also produce fruit! Im glad its yours and yours alone, this way perhaps you might just keep your hypocrisy to yourself, just be ready that when you judge a man, you are ready to be judged as well! Im praying for your kids tonight. I know that Michael uses some strict criteria before he publishes. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark? First it is absolutely dishonoring and disgraceful to his wife (whether he is caught or not) dipping his pe in strange waters and bringing it back to his marital bed is about as low as you can get. By the end of that harrowing call on August 20, 2015, police knew the accused predator was no ordinary suspect. Andrew, Michale requested that theological debates cease immediately, to let people here grieve if they so choose. Coy is friendly and voluble, but his lively green eyes suddenly brim with tears when he's asked about the sexual assault claims. They did for a while, but after she SWAT Season 6 Episode 16: Now that the new S.W.A.T.

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